After what had to be at least 3-5 minutes pass, the GFWL login manager finally pops up. The window disappears, and I alt tab around, browsing the internet and chatting to my friends. Hooray! Once completed, it asked me if I would like to launch the GFWL Client, and I obliged. The GFWL installer from was of identical size to the one I was provided with my AoE3 purchase, opened what seemed to be an identical looking program, but managed to complete the install just the same. But still, I dug around, and found a link to the GFWL Installer from (rather than ). I was a little skeptical here - the GFWL Installer they gave me with my AoE3 purchase was actually from the official GFWL website. To fix the GFWL problem I had with FlatOut, it was a simple matter of browsing to the GFWL website and downloading the full GFWL install (this was the solution given by Microsoft themselves in a troubleshooting FAQ). ![]() When it came time to install that copy of FlatOut Ultimate Carnage I was talking about, GFWL attempted to simply update itself from within FlatOut, and surprise surprise, another, similar error. NET Framework pitched a similar fit, and once again, I had to manually correct the installation to get GFWL to work. When it came time to install the first version of Games for Windows Live. It took me days to clean the bad install out and re-install a fresh, correctly-working copy of. NET Framework installations had gone awry. When Ashuku bought me a cheapo copy of Company of Heroes, it too had trouble installing, because at some point, one of the. Putting this sort of thing on its own separate disc seems a bit silly. GFWL is either installed from the web or it installs as part of a game installation. Now, to my knowledge, there is no GFWL Redistributable CD. The program they give me on the page I bought Age of Empires III from boots up, and once it downloads the data required to install GFWL, it pops up with an error telling me that in order to proceed, I need the Games For Windows Live Redistributable CD. That's fine, I guess - I thought I installed it when I installed FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage, but since I uninstalled FOUC, it must've uninstalled GFWL with it. ![]() To download AoE3, it asks me to install the GFWL Marketplace. Sure, 10msp is more money than $0.10 (by about 3 cents), but considering I still have 12,000msp to spend, it's not a big deal. ![]() Amusingly enough, since I didn't have a credit card on file, it let me buy the game using Microsoft Points. Given that I really like Age of Empires, I jumped on the chance. Somebody forgot to carry a zero and Age of Empires III was listed for the low low price of $0.10. So earlier tonight, there was a pricing error on the Games for Windows Live Marketplace.
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